A Biblical Scholar Rebuts the Claims Made in the Eddie Long Coronation Video

February 2, 2012
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By Wil Gafney

I am writing this response to a YouTube video circulating widely on the internet in which Eddie Long, the troubled pastor of New Birth Missionary Baptist Church in Atlanta, GA is apparently crowned king with the ritual use of a Jewish Torah scroll. (The reader may know him for the recent scandal in which he was accused by five young men of sexual misconduct. After initially denying the allegations, he went into settlement talks with them.) A number of specious claims are made during the ritual which I would like to refute.

In the video we have Ralph Messer who represents himself as a Jew. He may well be some sort of Messianic Jew, a person who claims Jewish heritage and recognizes Jesus as the Son of God, but who is not part of one of the major Jewish movements: Orthodox, Reform, Conservative, Reconstructionist, Reform, Renewal. He does not, however, represent recognizable Jewish thought or practice in his (mis)representations of the Torah and other Jewish sancta – or for that matter, New Testament and Christian biblical interpretation and theology.

  1. The claim that Holocaust Torahs cannot be insured “because there are no more” is patently false. They are regularly insured as are other one of a kind objects d’art, i.e. the works of Picasso.
  2. The Torah cover is not a “foreskin.” Hyper-masculine, hyper-sexualization of the Torah reduces the holy Torah to a problematic phallic symbol – God’s? or Long’s? – and categorizes the most destructive behaviors associated with New Birth ministries in recent years. Grammatically and symbolically, the Torah is feminine in Hebrew and is personified as “She,” as in “She is a Tree of Life,” in Prov. 3:18.
  3. The Temple in Jerusalem was not a synagogue or Beth Midrash, where Torah scrolls were kept and studied.
  4. The Torah wrapper is not referred to as a “belt of righteousness.”
  5. The tree in the vision in the book of Revelation whose “leaves are for the healing of the nations,” (22:2), is a fruit tree – not a Torah scroll – and the text does not say that there are “39 leaves” as claimed in the video.
  6. The claim that “only one of great authority” is given a “finger” to touch the scroll is patently false. Any bar or bat mitvah, girl or boy, woman or man, who has completed the rite of passage, can chant the Torah according to the (minhag) custom in their congregation. Torah scroll pointers, called “hands,” (yadayim), not “fingers” are common gifts and possessions in Jewish families and communities.
  7. The claim that 90% of the Jews in the world have “never seen, approached or touched” Torah scrolls is utterly without foundation. The Torah is taken out of the Ark during Shabbat and other services; it is processed through the assembly twice where people reverence it (Her!) by touching and kissing it/Her.
  8. The frequent references to significant numbers may be an attempt to mimic the Jewish mystical tradition of Gematria that elicits meanings from numbers and their contexts.  However, the speaker is devising his own system without reference to any of the classical texts in Judaism, frequently by simple free- and word-association.
  9. There is no verse in the scriptures where Jesus calls himself “the eternal government of God” as claimed by the speaker.
  10. The point that “these” – presumably Torah scrolls or just Holocaust Torah scrolls are only given to “cities in need of anointing” is false. Individuals, families and religious communities own and commission Torah scrolls and keep or give them as they see fit, to synagogues, Jewish seminaries and other schools and museums.
  11. Even if the speaker identifies as a Jew and has Israeli citizenship, he does not speak for “the Jewish people,” “the land of Israel” or “the state of Israel.”
  12. His address of Eddie Long as a biblical or Israelite king is without foundation in the scriptures or in reality.
  13. The notion that there is such a thing as a “king chromosome” is a fiction, as is the claim that it is kohenic, that is priestly; the Israelite and Judean monarchs – there were queens as well – were not priests.
  14. The man’s articulation of what “God wants” is, to say the least, unsubstantiated outside that particular setting.
  15. The man never says how he knows that none of Long’s ancestors or relatives has ever seen a Torah scroll.
  16. While there are some traditional reflections on the human body – including DNA and chromosomes – in the mystical Kabbalistic tradition, the speaker is crafting a verbal montage without reference to the classical texts or their theologies.
  17. He attributes a quote to “Jewish doctors” stereotyping an entire community as conflating cellular biology with his Hebrew mysticism without actually naming or quoting any single “Jewish doctor” who holds such an opinion.
  18. The “crowns” in Torah scrolls stem from a particular – now-normative – calligraphy style, but other types of calligraphy have been used through the ages to produce legitimate Torah scrolls.
  19. The claim that the kings of Israel were crowned with Torah scrolls wrapping them has no foundation in the biblical text. According to the bible’s own chronology the written Torah did not come into existence until the reign of King Josiah in the sixth century BCE (2 Kgs 22), some four hundred years after the time of David. However, the great second century rabbi Hanina ben Teradion, was however wrapped in a Torah scroll and burned alive in his martyrdom. Perhaps he has confused or conflated the traditions.
  20. While the Torah poles are called, etzim, “trees,” they are not known as “justice and blessing.”
  21. The speaker’s claim that his speaking “life” to Eddie Long as a Jew has some meaning, is utterly without meaning.
  22. The speaker’s prediction that the ritual – his antecedent is unclear – will arouse either “death” or “life” in someone – Long? Or the congregation? – is his own Gnosticism, knowledge that is not shared by those outside that particular setting.
  23. There is no precedent for presenting anyone, even a fictitious Israelite-ish monarch with the Torah wrapper.
  24. The donning of the tallit, prayer shawl, is done by those who have completed their bar or bat mitzvah – whatever it was that just occurred, it had none of the requisite elements of a bat or bar mitzvah. In addition, the tallit is donned by pulling it over one’s head and reciting the traditional prayer, which was not done. It is also not draped like a clergy stole.
  25. The elevation of Long lifted in the chair by four men seems to have been borrowed from Jewish wedding festivities and has noting to do with coronation; there is no evidence of this practice among Israelite or Judean monarchs.
  26. The Aaronic blessing (Num 6:24-26) is a blessing for the people and not a putative leader.

It is unfortunate that the speaker chose to plunder the sacred traditions of Judaism as he invented novel interpretations of biblical texts and imagery to affirm and elevate an individual who had admittedly broken the sacred trust between pastor and congregant.

For more on this subject, please also visit Religion Dispatches, where Anthea Butler provides an additional critical gaze.

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Wil Gafney, Ph.D. is Associate Professor of Hebrew and Old Testament at the Lutheran Theological Seminary at Philadelphia in Pennsylvania and is an Episcopal Priest canonically resident in the Diocese of Pennsylvania. She is also a member of the Dorshei Derekh Reconstructionist Minyan of the Germantown Jewish Center in Philadelphia PA. In addition she has co-taught courses with and for the Reconstructionist Rabbinical Seminary in Wyncote, PA.  For more visit Amazon.com and Living in Jerusalem: 40 Days and 40 Nights.

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212 Responses to A Biblical Scholar Rebuts the Claims Made in the Eddie Long Coronation Video

  1. Sharon on February 2, 2012 at 1:48 am

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  2. Sharon on February 2, 2012 at 1:48 am

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  3. Sharon on February 2, 2012 at 1:48 am

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  4. Sharon on February 2, 2012 at 1:48 am

    THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. Rev. Shonda Nicole Gladden on February 2, 2012 at 7:23 am

    This, Dr. Gafney, is why I love you! Thank you so much for this thorough rebuttal. It does not lessen my sadness for the spiritual travesty that this account represents, but it certainly leaves no room for anyone to “know better” and subsequently “do better.” Thank you again.

    • .Jerome Mcneil on February 3, 2012 at 10:49 am

      Thank you so much for confirming the unpleasant mock movement of a blasphemous act and performance. Our prayers for what has happened to this congregation and others bamboozled by this facade.
      Jerome McNeil, Ph.D., Pastor Dallas,Tx.

  6. Rev. Shonda Nicole Gladden on February 2, 2012 at 7:23 am

    This, Dr. Gafney, is why I love you! Thank you so much for this thorough rebuttal. It does not lessen my sadness for the spiritual travesty that this account represents, but it certainly leaves no room for anyone to “know better” and subsequently “do better.” Thank you again.

    • .Jerome Mcneil on February 3, 2012 at 10:49 am

      Thank you so much for confirming the unpleasant mock movement of a blasphemous act and performance. Our prayers for what has happened to this congregation and others bamboozled by this facade.
      Jerome McNeil, Ph.D., Pastor Dallas,Tx.

  7. Rev. Shonda Nicole Gladden on February 2, 2012 at 7:23 am

    This, Dr. Gafney, is why I love you! Thank you so much for this thorough rebuttal. It does not lessen my sadness for the spiritual travesty that this account represents, but it certainly leaves no room for anyone to “know better” and subsequently “do better.” Thank you again.

    • .Jerome Mcneil on February 3, 2012 at 10:49 am

      Thank you so much for confirming the unpleasant mock movement of a blasphemous act and performance. Our prayers for what has happened to this congregation and others bamboozled by this facade.
      Jerome McNeil, Ph.D., Pastor Dallas,Tx.

  8. Rev. Shonda Nicole Gladden on February 2, 2012 at 7:23 am

    This, Dr. Gafney, is why I love you! Thank you so much for this thorough rebuttal. It does not lessen my sadness for the spiritual travesty that this account represents, but it certainly leaves no room for anyone to “know better” and subsequently “do better.” Thank you again.

    • .Jerome Mcneil on February 3, 2012 at 10:49 am

      Thank you so much for confirming the unpleasant mock movement of a blasphemous act and performance. Our prayers for what has happened to this congregation and others bamboozled by this facade.
      Jerome McNeil, Ph.D., Pastor Dallas,Tx.

  9. Marisa Elana on February 2, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Brilliantly done Dr. Gafney! Kol hakavod!

  10. Marisa Elana on February 2, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Brilliantly done Dr. Gafney! Kol hakavod!

  11. Marisa Elana on February 2, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Brilliantly done Dr. Gafney! Kol hakavod!

  12. Marisa Elana on February 2, 2012 at 7:36 am

    Brilliantly done Dr. Gafney! Kol hakavod!

  13. Denise on February 2, 2012 at 8:51 am

    The most IMMEDIATE problem for me as a Christian is that the monarchy is through the Davidic line, and God promised David that his royal line would never end. That was fulfilled in Jesus, the ETERNAL KING, who was himself *wait for it* OF THE LINE OF DAVID! There are no kings outside of that, particularly from the Christian perspective. So right off jump, this thing is a huge farce because it flies in the face of basic Christian belief about who and what Jesus is. I pray these people wake up!

  14. Denise on February 2, 2012 at 8:51 am

    The most IMMEDIATE problem for me as a Christian is that the monarchy is through the Davidic line, and God promised David that his royal line would never end. That was fulfilled in Jesus, the ETERNAL KING, who was himself *wait for it* OF THE LINE OF DAVID! There are no kings outside of that, particularly from the Christian perspective. So right off jump, this thing is a huge farce because it flies in the face of basic Christian belief about who and what Jesus is. I pray these people wake up!

  15. Denise on February 2, 2012 at 8:51 am

    The most IMMEDIATE problem for me as a Christian is that the monarchy is through the Davidic line, and God promised David that his royal line would never end. That was fulfilled in Jesus, the ETERNAL KING, who was himself *wait for it* OF THE LINE OF DAVID! There are no kings outside of that, particularly from the Christian perspective. So right off jump, this thing is a huge farce because it flies in the face of basic Christian belief about who and what Jesus is. I pray these people wake up!

  16. Denise on February 2, 2012 at 8:51 am

    The most IMMEDIATE problem for me as a Christian is that the monarchy is through the Davidic line, and God promised David that his royal line would never end. That was fulfilled in Jesus, the ETERNAL KING, who was himself *wait for it* OF THE LINE OF DAVID! There are no kings outside of that, particularly from the Christian perspective. So right off jump, this thing is a huge farce because it flies in the face of basic Christian belief about who and what Jesus is. I pray these people wake up!

  17. Joan Gosier on February 2, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Thank U so much for this refreshing and confirming article. When my husband and I watched the video together in AMAZEMENT we searched in our bible for
    many of the referenced scriptural references on Jesus and found them
    1) Taken out of context
    2) Non existent

    We sat and wondered WHY a person declaring himself Jewish would even attempt to utilize New Testament doctrine but just shrugged and concluded that it was for compensation [noting how quickly he left the mic at the end].

    Sad to see how a person attempts to mesmerize the masses with fast talk and untraceable references to make a point. TRAGIC. We must be seeing our final days.

    • DavidJ on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      Because he is a white male and sad who seems to possess something that the members of the congregation did not possess — a discerning spirit. Never have been a fan of Eddie Long since the million man march when he got Mark Hanby to get up refute the million man march because as Long said, it was called by a Farrakhan (a Muslim). Imagine how tickled I was to see at Tavis Smiley’s “State of the Black Union” Rev. Farrakhan and E. Long sitting on the dais of the New Birth Full Gospel B. C. Laughed myself silly.
      Sorry for the digression, but again, I think that it is nothing but a ploy that he uses that if I can’t get you all to trust me, then let me get this white guy, because you are easily susceptible to believe anything that they say…

      • Joan Gosier on February 3, 2012 at 6:34 am

        So true. Sad.

      • Eazy on February 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        bamm exactly sir !

  18. Joan Gosier on February 2, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Thank U so much for this refreshing and confirming article. When my husband and I watched the video together in AMAZEMENT we searched in our bible for
    many of the referenced scriptural references on Jesus and found them
    1) Taken out of context
    2) Non existent

    We sat and wondered WHY a person declaring himself Jewish would even attempt to utilize New Testament doctrine but just shrugged and concluded that it was for compensation [noting how quickly he left the mic at the end].

    Sad to see how a person attempts to mesmerize the masses with fast talk and untraceable references to make a point. TRAGIC. We must be seeing our final days.

    • DavidJ on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      Because he is a white male and sad who seems to possess something that the members of the congregation did not possess — a discerning spirit. Never have been a fan of Eddie Long since the million man march when he got Mark Hanby to get up refute the million man march because as Long said, it was called by a Farrakhan (a Muslim). Imagine how tickled I was to see at Tavis Smiley’s “State of the Black Union” Rev. Farrakhan and E. Long sitting on the dais of the New Birth Full Gospel B. C. Laughed myself silly.
      Sorry for the digression, but again, I think that it is nothing but a ploy that he uses that if I can’t get you all to trust me, then let me get this white guy, because you are easily susceptible to believe anything that they say…

      • Joan Gosier on February 3, 2012 at 6:34 am

        So true. Sad.

      • Eazy on February 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        bamm exactly sir !

  19. Joan Gosier on February 2, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Thank U so much for this refreshing and confirming article. When my husband and I watched the video together in AMAZEMENT we searched in our bible for
    many of the referenced scriptural references on Jesus and found them
    1) Taken out of context
    2) Non existent

    We sat and wondered WHY a person declaring himself Jewish would even attempt to utilize New Testament doctrine but just shrugged and concluded that it was for compensation [noting how quickly he left the mic at the end].

    Sad to see how a person attempts to mesmerize the masses with fast talk and untraceable references to make a point. TRAGIC. We must be seeing our final days.

    • DavidJ on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      Because he is a white male and sad who seems to possess something that the members of the congregation did not possess — a discerning spirit. Never have been a fan of Eddie Long since the million man march when he got Mark Hanby to get up refute the million man march because as Long said, it was called by a Farrakhan (a Muslim). Imagine how tickled I was to see at Tavis Smiley’s “State of the Black Union” Rev. Farrakhan and E. Long sitting on the dais of the New Birth Full Gospel B. C. Laughed myself silly.
      Sorry for the digression, but again, I think that it is nothing but a ploy that he uses that if I can’t get you all to trust me, then let me get this white guy, because you are easily susceptible to believe anything that they say…

      • Joan Gosier on February 3, 2012 at 6:34 am

        So true. Sad.

      • Eazy on February 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        bamm exactly sir !

  20. Joan Gosier on February 2, 2012 at 8:58 am

    Thank U so much for this refreshing and confirming article. When my husband and I watched the video together in AMAZEMENT we searched in our bible for
    many of the referenced scriptural references on Jesus and found them
    1) Taken out of context
    2) Non existent

    We sat and wondered WHY a person declaring himself Jewish would even attempt to utilize New Testament doctrine but just shrugged and concluded that it was for compensation [noting how quickly he left the mic at the end].

    Sad to see how a person attempts to mesmerize the masses with fast talk and untraceable references to make a point. TRAGIC. We must be seeing our final days.

    • DavidJ on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 pm

      Because he is a white male and sad who seems to possess something that the members of the congregation did not possess — a discerning spirit. Never have been a fan of Eddie Long since the million man march when he got Mark Hanby to get up refute the million man march because as Long said, it was called by a Farrakhan (a Muslim). Imagine how tickled I was to see at Tavis Smiley’s “State of the Black Union” Rev. Farrakhan and E. Long sitting on the dais of the New Birth Full Gospel B. C. Laughed myself silly.
      Sorry for the digression, but again, I think that it is nothing but a ploy that he uses that if I can’t get you all to trust me, then let me get this white guy, because you are easily susceptible to believe anything that they say…

      • Joan Gosier on February 3, 2012 at 6:34 am

        So true. Sad.

      • Eazy on February 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm

        bamm exactly sir !

  21. Rev. Raedorah C. Stewart on February 2, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Rabbi, thank you. May those who are deceived read and believe lest they fall prey to the predicament of Hosea 4:6. Giving God Thanks and Praise for your disciplined scholarship and lived witness.

    • Rev. J. Flowers on February 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      I agree. We shall continue to pray for these souls who are being blinded to the Truth. Rabbi, thank you for we know that the Truth sets us all free (even those of us who continue to pray and grieve for the freedom of that congregation).

  22. Rev. Raedorah C. Stewart on February 2, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Rabbi, thank you. May those who are deceived read and believe lest they fall prey to the predicament of Hosea 4:6. Giving God Thanks and Praise for your disciplined scholarship and lived witness.

    • Rev. J. Flowers on February 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      I agree. We shall continue to pray for these souls who are being blinded to the Truth. Rabbi, thank you for we know that the Truth sets us all free (even those of us who continue to pray and grieve for the freedom of that congregation).

  23. Rev. Raedorah C. Stewart on February 2, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Rabbi, thank you. May those who are deceived read and believe lest they fall prey to the predicament of Hosea 4:6. Giving God Thanks and Praise for your disciplined scholarship and lived witness.

    • Rev. J. Flowers on February 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      I agree. We shall continue to pray for these souls who are being blinded to the Truth. Rabbi, thank you for we know that the Truth sets us all free (even those of us who continue to pray and grieve for the freedom of that congregation).

  24. Rev. Raedorah C. Stewart on February 2, 2012 at 9:22 am

    Rabbi, thank you. May those who are deceived read and believe lest they fall prey to the predicament of Hosea 4:6. Giving God Thanks and Praise for your disciplined scholarship and lived witness.

    • Rev. J. Flowers on February 3, 2012 at 2:13 pm

      I agree. We shall continue to pray for these souls who are being blinded to the Truth. Rabbi, thank you for we know that the Truth sets us all free (even those of us who continue to pray and grieve for the freedom of that congregation).

  25. Steven on February 2, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m in no way admonished to believe the points of disagreement by Dr Gafney. I am still in awe of the ceremony taken place at the New Birth Church. Just because you don’t believe the coronation Dr Gafney, does not make it of no significance. BLESS BISHOP LONG!

    • Josh on February 2, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Wow, you sir are a complete fool and will share in the destruction of such deception because you have not sought the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit for what is true and holy. God is not mocked by such a charade. No one can be coronated a king except King Jesus. Members of Christ’s body are a royal priesthood and a holy nation, but with such sin and error, Eddie Long and his congregation are proving not to be even that. Deception is running rampant in these last days. Repent of following that man and be saved.

      2 Peter 2: 1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

      4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.

      Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

      13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

      17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

      • marie on February 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        thanks for these Scripture.

      • Andrea on February 3, 2012 at 4:59 am

        Did you just rebuke him??? Good job…LOL!
        #AFooliswhataFooldoes

      • Pennywhistler on February 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm

        Jewish angels don’t sin. Biblical angels don’t sin.

        Maybe YOURS do, but ours don’t.

      • Cliff on February 3, 2012 at 4:52 pm

        What benefit do we gain from calling people names. It is possible to make your point without insulting folks!

    • Greg B on February 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      When the truth is presented you should at least look at the evidence and be as those of Berea.
      Act 17:11 “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (KJV)

      Also heed the words found in Hebrews 2:1 It’s crucial that we keep a firm grip on what we’ve heard so that we don’t drift off. (MSG)

      The word is true and you don’t need hype to penetrate the heart.

    • SnyhNtn on February 3, 2012 at 8:43 am

      As a New Birth member of 10+ years…
      I’ve been away on a journey since 2004 being enlightened by the FATHER HIMSELF…no Bishop Long…No NEW BIRTH…I was fed TRUTH and LIGHT. Be encouraged my NEW BIRTH family and walk in the LIGHT. Let us NOT waste GOD’S precious gift of breath, life, and energy trying to heal those who refuse healing. We ALL know the end of the TERMINALLY ill…so LET the DEAD, bury the DEAD.

  26. Steven on February 2, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m in no way admonished to believe the points of disagreement by Dr Gafney. I am still in awe of the ceremony taken place at the New Birth Church. Just because you don’t believe the coronation Dr Gafney, does not make it of no significance. BLESS BISHOP LONG!

    • Josh on February 2, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Wow, you sir are a complete fool and will share in the destruction of such deception because you have not sought the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit for what is true and holy. God is not mocked by such a charade. No one can be coronated a king except King Jesus. Members of Christ’s body are a royal priesthood and a holy nation, but with such sin and error, Eddie Long and his congregation are proving not to be even that. Deception is running rampant in these last days. Repent of following that man and be saved.

      2 Peter 2: 1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

      4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.

      Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

      13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

      17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

      • marie on February 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        thanks for these Scripture.

      • Andrea on February 3, 2012 at 4:59 am

        Did you just rebuke him??? Good job…LOL!
        #AFooliswhataFooldoes

      • Pennywhistler on February 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm

        Jewish angels don’t sin. Biblical angels don’t sin.

        Maybe YOURS do, but ours don’t.

      • Cliff on February 3, 2012 at 4:52 pm

        What benefit do we gain from calling people names. It is possible to make your point without insulting folks!

    • Greg B on February 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      When the truth is presented you should at least look at the evidence and be as those of Berea.
      Act 17:11 “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (KJV)

      Also heed the words found in Hebrews 2:1 It’s crucial that we keep a firm grip on what we’ve heard so that we don’t drift off. (MSG)

      The word is true and you don’t need hype to penetrate the heart.

    • SnyhNtn on February 3, 2012 at 8:43 am

      As a New Birth member of 10+ years…
      I’ve been away on a journey since 2004 being enlightened by the FATHER HIMSELF…no Bishop Long…No NEW BIRTH…I was fed TRUTH and LIGHT. Be encouraged my NEW BIRTH family and walk in the LIGHT. Let us NOT waste GOD’S precious gift of breath, life, and energy trying to heal those who refuse healing. We ALL know the end of the TERMINALLY ill…so LET the DEAD, bury the DEAD.

  27. Steven on February 2, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m in no way admonished to believe the points of disagreement by Dr Gafney. I am still in awe of the ceremony taken place at the New Birth Church. Just because you don’t believe the coronation Dr Gafney, does not make it of no significance. BLESS BISHOP LONG!

    • Josh on February 2, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Wow, you sir are a complete fool and will share in the destruction of such deception because you have not sought the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit for what is true and holy. God is not mocked by such a charade. No one can be coronated a king except King Jesus. Members of Christ’s body are a royal priesthood and a holy nation, but with such sin and error, Eddie Long and his congregation are proving not to be even that. Deception is running rampant in these last days. Repent of following that man and be saved.

      2 Peter 2: 1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

      4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.

      Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

      13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

      17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

      • marie on February 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        thanks for these Scripture.

      • Andrea on February 3, 2012 at 4:59 am

        Did you just rebuke him??? Good job…LOL!
        #AFooliswhataFooldoes

      • Pennywhistler on February 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm

        Jewish angels don’t sin. Biblical angels don’t sin.

        Maybe YOURS do, but ours don’t.

      • Cliff on February 3, 2012 at 4:52 pm

        What benefit do we gain from calling people names. It is possible to make your point without insulting folks!

    • Greg B on February 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      When the truth is presented you should at least look at the evidence and be as those of Berea.
      Act 17:11 “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (KJV)

      Also heed the words found in Hebrews 2:1 It’s crucial that we keep a firm grip on what we’ve heard so that we don’t drift off. (MSG)

      The word is true and you don’t need hype to penetrate the heart.

    • SnyhNtn on February 3, 2012 at 8:43 am

      As a New Birth member of 10+ years…
      I’ve been away on a journey since 2004 being enlightened by the FATHER HIMSELF…no Bishop Long…No NEW BIRTH…I was fed TRUTH and LIGHT. Be encouraged my NEW BIRTH family and walk in the LIGHT. Let us NOT waste GOD’S precious gift of breath, life, and energy trying to heal those who refuse healing. We ALL know the end of the TERMINALLY ill…so LET the DEAD, bury the DEAD.

  28. Steven on February 2, 2012 at 9:40 am

    I’m in no way admonished to believe the points of disagreement by Dr Gafney. I am still in awe of the ceremony taken place at the New Birth Church. Just because you don’t believe the coronation Dr Gafney, does not make it of no significance. BLESS BISHOP LONG!

    • Josh on February 2, 2012 at 10:17 am

      Wow, you sir are a complete fool and will share in the destruction of such deception because you have not sought the Scriptures and the Holy Spirit for what is true and holy. God is not mocked by such a charade. No one can be coronated a king except King Jesus. Members of Christ’s body are a royal priesthood and a holy nation, but with such sin and error, Eddie Long and his congregation are proving not to be even that. Deception is running rampant in these last days. Repent of following that man and be saved.

      2 Peter 2: 1 But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them—bringing swift destruction on themselves. 2 Many will follow their depraved conduct and will bring the way of truth into disrepute. 3 In their greed these teachers will exploit you with fabricated stories. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.

      4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,[a] putting them in chains of darkness[b] to be held for judgment; 5 if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; 6 if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; 7 and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the depraved conduct of the lawless 8 (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9 if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from trials and to hold the unrighteous for punishment on the day of judgment. 10 This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the flesh[c] and despise authority.

      Bold and arrogant, they are not afraid to heap abuse on celestial beings; 11 yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not heap abuse on such beings when bringing judgment on them from[d] the Lord. 12 But these people blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish.

      13 They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done. Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.[e] 14 With eyes full of adultery, they never stop sinning; they seduce the unstable; they are experts in greed—an accursed brood! 15 They have left the straight way and wandered off to follow the way of Balaam son of Bezer,[f] who loved the wages of wickedness. 16 But he was rebuked for his wrongdoing by a donkey—an animal without speech—who spoke with a human voice and restrained the prophet’s madness.

      17 These people are springs without water and mists driven by a storm. Blackest darkness is reserved for them. 18 For they mouth empty, boastful words and, by appealing to the lustful desires of the flesh, they entice people who are just escaping from those who live in error. 19 They promise them freedom, while they themselves are slaves of depravity—for “people are slaves to whatever has mastered them.” 20 If they have escaped the corruption of the world by knowing our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ and are again entangled in it and are overcome, they are worse off at the end than they were at the beginning. 21 It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them. 22 Of them the proverbs are true: “A dog returns to its vomit,”[g] and, “A sow that is washed returns to her wallowing in the mud.”

      • marie on February 2, 2012 at 1:36 pm

        thanks for these Scripture.

      • Andrea on February 3, 2012 at 4:59 am

        Did you just rebuke him??? Good job…LOL!
        #AFooliswhataFooldoes

      • Pennywhistler on February 3, 2012 at 4:45 pm

        Jewish angels don’t sin. Biblical angels don’t sin.

        Maybe YOURS do, but ours don’t.

      • Cliff on February 3, 2012 at 4:52 pm

        What benefit do we gain from calling people names. It is possible to make your point without insulting folks!

    • Greg B on February 2, 2012 at 5:15 pm

      When the truth is presented you should at least look at the evidence and be as those of Berea.
      Act 17:11 “These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so. (KJV)

      Also heed the words found in Hebrews 2:1 It’s crucial that we keep a firm grip on what we’ve heard so that we don’t drift off. (MSG)

      The word is true and you don’t need hype to penetrate the heart.

    • SnyhNtn on February 3, 2012 at 8:43 am

      As a New Birth member of 10+ years…
      I’ve been away on a journey since 2004 being enlightened by the FATHER HIMSELF…no Bishop Long…No NEW BIRTH…I was fed TRUTH and LIGHT. Be encouraged my NEW BIRTH family and walk in the LIGHT. Let us NOT waste GOD’S precious gift of breath, life, and energy trying to heal those who refuse healing. We ALL know the end of the TERMINALLY ill…so LET the DEAD, bury the DEAD.

  29. Monte on February 2, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If you look at the video Long doesn’t appear to know this was happening and has some sort of bewilderment look on his face. At the 9:57 mark he says “I want to go back to my seat.”

    • DB on February 3, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      I caught that too. He even looked like what was happening was working his spirit. Still, for that to have happened he had to have set it up ahead of time. Then, he went along with all of it.

      Satan makes bad ideas seem real good sometimes…l

  30. Monte on February 2, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If you look at the video Long doesn’t appear to know this was happening and has some sort of bewilderment look on his face. At the 9:57 mark he says “I want to go back to my seat.”

    • DB on February 3, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      I caught that too. He even looked like what was happening was working his spirit. Still, for that to have happened he had to have set it up ahead of time. Then, he went along with all of it.

      Satan makes bad ideas seem real good sometimes…l

  31. Monte on February 2, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If you look at the video Long doesn’t appear to know this was happening and has some sort of bewilderment look on his face. At the 9:57 mark he says “I want to go back to my seat.”

    • DB on February 3, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      I caught that too. He even looked like what was happening was working his spirit. Still, for that to have happened he had to have set it up ahead of time. Then, he went along with all of it.

      Satan makes bad ideas seem real good sometimes…l

  32. Monte on February 2, 2012 at 10:39 am

    If you look at the video Long doesn’t appear to know this was happening and has some sort of bewilderment look on his face. At the 9:57 mark he says “I want to go back to my seat.”

    • DB on February 3, 2012 at 3:44 pm

      I caught that too. He even looked like what was happening was working his spirit. Still, for that to have happened he had to have set it up ahead of time. Then, he went along with all of it.

      Satan makes bad ideas seem real good sometimes…l

  33. John M. on February 2, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Thank you and God bless you Wil!!! I knew you could bring clarity to this matter.

  34. John M. on February 2, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Thank you and God bless you Wil!!! I knew you could bring clarity to this matter.

  35. John M. on February 2, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Thank you and God bless you Wil!!! I knew you could bring clarity to this matter.

  36. John M. on February 2, 2012 at 11:04 am

    Thank you and God bless you Wil!!! I knew you could bring clarity to this matter.

  37. Learn for Yourself on February 2, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Thank you for addressing this with historically and docuemented evidence. Too often, people are misled because they only take a person’s word for the Wordof God and don’t research for themselves. In the same manner, your evidence will be researched, and thankfully, your documentation and evendince back up your position. People have to study for themselves in addition to hearing from their spiritual leaders. Long’s actions and behaviors alone are enough to question what is said by him and by those he endorses.

  38. Learn for Yourself on February 2, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Thank you for addressing this with historically and docuemented evidence. Too often, people are misled because they only take a person’s word for the Wordof God and don’t research for themselves. In the same manner, your evidence will be researched, and thankfully, your documentation and evendince back up your position. People have to study for themselves in addition to hearing from their spiritual leaders. Long’s actions and behaviors alone are enough to question what is said by him and by those he endorses.

  39. Learn for Yourself on February 2, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Thank you for addressing this with historically and docuemented evidence. Too often, people are misled because they only take a person’s word for the Wordof God and don’t research for themselves. In the same manner, your evidence will be researched, and thankfully, your documentation and evendince back up your position. People have to study for themselves in addition to hearing from their spiritual leaders. Long’s actions and behaviors alone are enough to question what is said by him and by those he endorses.

  40. Learn for Yourself on February 2, 2012 at 11:36 am

    Thank you for addressing this with historically and docuemented evidence. Too often, people are misled because they only take a person’s word for the Wordof God and don’t research for themselves. In the same manner, your evidence will be researched, and thankfully, your documentation and evendince back up your position. People have to study for themselves in addition to hearing from their spiritual leaders. Long’s actions and behaviors alone are enough to question what is said by him and by those he endorses.

  41. k johnson on February 2, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Thank you professor. . . that was enlightening.

  42. k johnson on February 2, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Thank you professor. . . that was enlightening.

  43. k johnson on February 2, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Thank you professor. . . that was enlightening.

  44. k johnson on February 2, 2012 at 11:43 am

    Thank you professor. . . that was enlightening.

  45. Scott Goldsmith on February 2, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Thank you for rebutting that extremely offensive video. Abusing a Torah in this manner, particularly a Holocaust Torah, is truly disgraceful. As you note, the only person Biblical personage wrapped in a Torah was a martyr, burned alive in it, and this was certainly not his choice.

  46. Scott Goldsmith on February 2, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Thank you for rebutting that extremely offensive video. Abusing a Torah in this manner, particularly a Holocaust Torah, is truly disgraceful. As you note, the only person Biblical personage wrapped in a Torah was a martyr, burned alive in it, and this was certainly not his choice.

  47. Scott Goldsmith on February 2, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Thank you for rebutting that extremely offensive video. Abusing a Torah in this manner, particularly a Holocaust Torah, is truly disgraceful. As you note, the only person Biblical personage wrapped in a Torah was a martyr, burned alive in it, and this was certainly not his choice.

  48. Scott Goldsmith on February 2, 2012 at 11:50 am

    Thank you for rebutting that extremely offensive video. Abusing a Torah in this manner, particularly a Holocaust Torah, is truly disgraceful. As you note, the only person Biblical personage wrapped in a Torah was a martyr, burned alive in it, and this was certainly not his choice.

  49. Kandyse McCoy-Cunningham on February 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you so much for this information. I was initially disturbed when I first saw the video, I felt that that whole ordeal was out of order, however I was not sure, because I am not knowledgeable concerning the Jewish culture. Above all else, I am saddened by the response of the individuals in the congregation, who reacted to what that man was saying and doing without fully knowing if it was true or not. I pray for Eddie Long, just when you think he’s done enough, he comes up with something else.

  50. Kandyse McCoy-Cunningham on February 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you so much for this information. I was initially disturbed when I first saw the video, I felt that that whole ordeal was out of order, however I was not sure, because I am not knowledgeable concerning the Jewish culture. Above all else, I am saddened by the response of the individuals in the congregation, who reacted to what that man was saying and doing without fully knowing if it was true or not. I pray for Eddie Long, just when you think he’s done enough, he comes up with something else.

  51. Kandyse McCoy-Cunningham on February 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you so much for this information. I was initially disturbed when I first saw the video, I felt that that whole ordeal was out of order, however I was not sure, because I am not knowledgeable concerning the Jewish culture. Above all else, I am saddened by the response of the individuals in the congregation, who reacted to what that man was saying and doing without fully knowing if it was true or not. I pray for Eddie Long, just when you think he’s done enough, he comes up with something else.

  52. Kandyse McCoy-Cunningham on February 2, 2012 at 2:27 pm

    Thank you so much for this information. I was initially disturbed when I first saw the video, I felt that that whole ordeal was out of order, however I was not sure, because I am not knowledgeable concerning the Jewish culture. Above all else, I am saddened by the response of the individuals in the congregation, who reacted to what that man was saying and doing without fully knowing if it was true or not. I pray for Eddie Long, just when you think he’s done enough, he comes up with something else.

  53. Rachelle Carson on February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Thank you Dr. Gafney. Ignorance is no longer a viable excuse for the people of God in all things spiritual. In my spirit, I knew this was out of order because there is only one King. However, you provided the detail we all needed. We would all do well to learn more about the Jewish foundation of our faith!

  54. Rachelle Carson on February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Thank you Dr. Gafney. Ignorance is no longer a viable excuse for the people of God in all things spiritual. In my spirit, I knew this was out of order because there is only one King. However, you provided the detail we all needed. We would all do well to learn more about the Jewish foundation of our faith!

  55. Rachelle Carson on February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Thank you Dr. Gafney. Ignorance is no longer a viable excuse for the people of God in all things spiritual. In my spirit, I knew this was out of order because there is only one King. However, you provided the detail we all needed. We would all do well to learn more about the Jewish foundation of our faith!

  56. Rachelle Carson on February 2, 2012 at 3:56 pm

    Thank you Dr. Gafney. Ignorance is no longer a viable excuse for the people of God in all things spiritual. In my spirit, I knew this was out of order because there is only one King. However, you provided the detail we all needed. We would all do well to learn more about the Jewish foundation of our faith!

  57. Dmariamac on February 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Thank you for this rebuttle. As a follower of Jesus Christ, and of non-Jewish ethnicity, I had no basis of knowing specifically why this “rabbi” seemed off with all his declarations. Thankful for your input. Have been posting your blog on Twitter and Facebook.

  58. Dmariamac on February 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Thank you for this rebuttle. As a follower of Jesus Christ, and of non-Jewish ethnicity, I had no basis of knowing specifically why this “rabbi” seemed off with all his declarations. Thankful for your input. Have been posting your blog on Twitter and Facebook.

  59. Dmariamac on February 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Thank you for this rebuttle. As a follower of Jesus Christ, and of non-Jewish ethnicity, I had no basis of knowing specifically why this “rabbi” seemed off with all his declarations. Thankful for your input. Have been posting your blog on Twitter and Facebook.

  60. Dmariamac on February 2, 2012 at 4:21 pm

    Thank you for this rebuttle. As a follower of Jesus Christ, and of non-Jewish ethnicity, I had no basis of knowing specifically why this “rabbi” seemed off with all his declarations. Thankful for your input. Have been posting your blog on Twitter and Facebook.

  61. Marilyn on February 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks so much for writing this article! I found it very informative. Since I really don’t know a lot about this subject, I’ve been enlightened by your clear, succinct, explanations in evaluating the Eddie Long (ridiculous) video. I’m always glad when I know more ‘coming’ out that I did ‘going in’! Thanks again!

  62. Marilyn on February 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks so much for writing this article! I found it very informative. Since I really don’t know a lot about this subject, I’ve been enlightened by your clear, succinct, explanations in evaluating the Eddie Long (ridiculous) video. I’m always glad when I know more ‘coming’ out that I did ‘going in’! Thanks again!

  63. Marilyn on February 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks so much for writing this article! I found it very informative. Since I really don’t know a lot about this subject, I’ve been enlightened by your clear, succinct, explanations in evaluating the Eddie Long (ridiculous) video. I’m always glad when I know more ‘coming’ out that I did ‘going in’! Thanks again!

  64. Marilyn on February 2, 2012 at 7:17 pm

    Thanks so much for writing this article! I found it very informative. Since I really don’t know a lot about this subject, I’ve been enlightened by your clear, succinct, explanations in evaluating the Eddie Long (ridiculous) video. I’m always glad when I know more ‘coming’ out that I did ‘going in’! Thanks again!

  65. David Clements, Jr. on February 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Thank you so much for the TRUTH!!!!

  66. David Clements, Jr. on February 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Thank you so much for the TRUTH!!!!

  67. David Clements, Jr. on February 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Thank you so much for the TRUTH!!!!

  68. David Clements, Jr. on February 2, 2012 at 7:18 pm

    Thank you so much for the TRUTH!!!!

  69. sis.Sandra on February 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    This has been a very informative piece.Very informative and clearly as I have never studied the cultural practices of the Jewish people I am yet limited (even upon being so richly informed) in understanding the depth and intricate details of their faith. I realize that anything that man does to replicate the people,places,or events contained in Gods Holy Bible that it will always be nothing more than a feeble attempt to display the Omnipotent power of GODS glory. I would even venture to say that it is quite possible that even a confirmed Jew may be incorrect in his attempts to engage in the ritual of his faith. However, in seeing the bigger picture which is always the greater picture I see a forgiven man in whom God is trying to give a renewed vision to through the process of rebirth and “New Birth” as the name of the church suggests.Because this rebuttle is not directed at Mr.Ralph Messer directly, I am not sure how to feel as it is a one sided lesson to be learned here,my greatest concern is not the outward show of the desire for man to obtain the blessing of GOD but rather the fact that people like Mr.Messer is operating in complete ignorance and untruths. This is extremely troubling to me as I am puzzled to see the real response from OUR FATHER. What does HE have to say about the matter? as it relates to the rebuttle and mishandling of HIS choosen peoples cultural ceremonies/rituals. This is where I am greatly perplexed. All is vain glory if the HEART is not right would be my closing statement. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us.God bless you.

  70. sis.Sandra on February 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    This has been a very informative piece.Very informative and clearly as I have never studied the cultural practices of the Jewish people I am yet limited (even upon being so richly informed) in understanding the depth and intricate details of their faith. I realize that anything that man does to replicate the people,places,or events contained in Gods Holy Bible that it will always be nothing more than a feeble attempt to display the Omnipotent power of GODS glory. I would even venture to say that it is quite possible that even a confirmed Jew may be incorrect in his attempts to engage in the ritual of his faith. However, in seeing the bigger picture which is always the greater picture I see a forgiven man in whom God is trying to give a renewed vision to through the process of rebirth and “New Birth” as the name of the church suggests.Because this rebuttle is not directed at Mr.Ralph Messer directly, I am not sure how to feel as it is a one sided lesson to be learned here,my greatest concern is not the outward show of the desire for man to obtain the blessing of GOD but rather the fact that people like Mr.Messer is operating in complete ignorance and untruths. This is extremely troubling to me as I am puzzled to see the real response from OUR FATHER. What does HE have to say about the matter? as it relates to the rebuttle and mishandling of HIS choosen peoples cultural ceremonies/rituals. This is where I am greatly perplexed. All is vain glory if the HEART is not right would be my closing statement. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us.God bless you.

  71. sis.Sandra on February 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    This has been a very informative piece.Very informative and clearly as I have never studied the cultural practices of the Jewish people I am yet limited (even upon being so richly informed) in understanding the depth and intricate details of their faith. I realize that anything that man does to replicate the people,places,or events contained in Gods Holy Bible that it will always be nothing more than a feeble attempt to display the Omnipotent power of GODS glory. I would even venture to say that it is quite possible that even a confirmed Jew may be incorrect in his attempts to engage in the ritual of his faith. However, in seeing the bigger picture which is always the greater picture I see a forgiven man in whom God is trying to give a renewed vision to through the process of rebirth and “New Birth” as the name of the church suggests.Because this rebuttle is not directed at Mr.Ralph Messer directly, I am not sure how to feel as it is a one sided lesson to be learned here,my greatest concern is not the outward show of the desire for man to obtain the blessing of GOD but rather the fact that people like Mr.Messer is operating in complete ignorance and untruths. This is extremely troubling to me as I am puzzled to see the real response from OUR FATHER. What does HE have to say about the matter? as it relates to the rebuttle and mishandling of HIS choosen peoples cultural ceremonies/rituals. This is where I am greatly perplexed. All is vain glory if the HEART is not right would be my closing statement. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us.God bless you.

  72. sis.Sandra on February 2, 2012 at 8:19 pm

    This has been a very informative piece.Very informative and clearly as I have never studied the cultural practices of the Jewish people I am yet limited (even upon being so richly informed) in understanding the depth and intricate details of their faith. I realize that anything that man does to replicate the people,places,or events contained in Gods Holy Bible that it will always be nothing more than a feeble attempt to display the Omnipotent power of GODS glory. I would even venture to say that it is quite possible that even a confirmed Jew may be incorrect in his attempts to engage in the ritual of his faith. However, in seeing the bigger picture which is always the greater picture I see a forgiven man in whom God is trying to give a renewed vision to through the process of rebirth and “New Birth” as the name of the church suggests.Because this rebuttle is not directed at Mr.Ralph Messer directly, I am not sure how to feel as it is a one sided lesson to be learned here,my greatest concern is not the outward show of the desire for man to obtain the blessing of GOD but rather the fact that people like Mr.Messer is operating in complete ignorance and untruths. This is extremely troubling to me as I am puzzled to see the real response from OUR FATHER. What does HE have to say about the matter? as it relates to the rebuttle and mishandling of HIS choosen peoples cultural ceremonies/rituals. This is where I am greatly perplexed. All is vain glory if the HEART is not right would be my closing statement. Thankyou for sharing your knowledge with us.God bless you.

  73. Dave on February 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Thank you for clarity.

  74. Dave on February 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Thank you for clarity.

  75. Dave on February 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Thank you for clarity.

  76. Dave on February 3, 2012 at 12:23 am

    Thank you for clarity.

  77. Tanya on February 3, 2012 at 5:24 am

    Thank you for Clerifying that VIDEO MSG! “E.Long” Distrubing how many people will be Confused by that Video!

  78. Tanya on February 3, 2012 at 5:24 am

    Thank you for Clerifying that VIDEO MSG! “E.Long” Distrubing how many people will be Confused by that Video!

  79. Tanya on February 3, 2012 at 5:24 am

    Thank you for Clerifying that VIDEO MSG! “E.Long” Distrubing how many people will be Confused by that Video!

  80. Tanya on February 3, 2012 at 5:24 am

    Thank you for Clerifying that VIDEO MSG! “E.Long” Distrubing how many people will be Confused by that Video!

  81. James on February 3, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The real idiots are the members who sat sheepishly watching this travesty of both Christianity and Judaism. The aisles should have been filled with people exiting the building not merely for that day but for good. These signs only prove that the spirit of anti-christ is nearer than we think.

  82. James on February 3, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The real idiots are the members who sat sheepishly watching this travesty of both Christianity and Judaism. The aisles should have been filled with people exiting the building not merely for that day but for good. These signs only prove that the spirit of anti-christ is nearer than we think.

  83. James on February 3, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The real idiots are the members who sat sheepishly watching this travesty of both Christianity and Judaism. The aisles should have been filled with people exiting the building not merely for that day but for good. These signs only prove that the spirit of anti-christ is nearer than we think.

  84. James on February 3, 2012 at 7:38 am

    The real idiots are the members who sat sheepishly watching this travesty of both Christianity and Judaism. The aisles should have been filled with people exiting the building not merely for that day but for good. These signs only prove that the spirit of anti-christ is nearer than we think.

  85. Pat on February 3, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!

  86. Pat on February 3, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!

  87. Pat on February 3, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!

  88. Pat on February 3, 2012 at 8:19 am

    Come quickly Lord Jesus!!!

  89. Rev Skip Jordan on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Thank you for your scholarly rebuttal of this disgraceful, theatrical stunt. Please know that Christians have been bending the words of Scripture, especially the words of Christ, for years. The Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan come to mind as typical examples of this.

  90. Rev Skip Jordan on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Thank you for your scholarly rebuttal of this disgraceful, theatrical stunt. Please know that Christians have been bending the words of Scripture, especially the words of Christ, for years. The Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan come to mind as typical examples of this.

  91. Rev Skip Jordan on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Thank you for your scholarly rebuttal of this disgraceful, theatrical stunt. Please know that Christians have been bending the words of Scripture, especially the words of Christ, for years. The Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan come to mind as typical examples of this.

  92. Rev Skip Jordan on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    Thank you for your scholarly rebuttal of this disgraceful, theatrical stunt. Please know that Christians have been bending the words of Scripture, especially the words of Christ, for years. The Nazis and the Ku Klux Klan come to mind as typical examples of this.

  93. Sylvester Warsaw, Jr. on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    First and foremost I want to thank God for being who He is. I also want to thank Rev. Dr. Cecilia Bryant for posting this exceptional article by Dr. Gafney. God would not have His children ignorant and the Holy Bible clearly says that Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. Because I love the Lord with all that is within me I must do that which Jesus commands His children to do and that is to pray for our brothers and sisters especially those who intentionally mislead others. As children of God we are a holy nation and a royal priesthood not kings and queens that title belongs to Jesus alone. Praise God for the truth of His Word. Bless you Dr. Gafney as you serve God’s people.

  94. Sylvester Warsaw, Jr. on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    First and foremost I want to thank God for being who He is. I also want to thank Rev. Dr. Cecilia Bryant for posting this exceptional article by Dr. Gafney. God would not have His children ignorant and the Holy Bible clearly says that Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. Because I love the Lord with all that is within me I must do that which Jesus commands His children to do and that is to pray for our brothers and sisters especially those who intentionally mislead others. As children of God we are a holy nation and a royal priesthood not kings and queens that title belongs to Jesus alone. Praise God for the truth of His Word. Bless you Dr. Gafney as you serve God’s people.

  95. Sylvester Warsaw, Jr. on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    First and foremost I want to thank God for being who He is. I also want to thank Rev. Dr. Cecilia Bryant for posting this exceptional article by Dr. Gafney. God would not have His children ignorant and the Holy Bible clearly says that Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. Because I love the Lord with all that is within me I must do that which Jesus commands His children to do and that is to pray for our brothers and sisters especially those who intentionally mislead others. As children of God we are a holy nation and a royal priesthood not kings and queens that title belongs to Jesus alone. Praise God for the truth of His Word. Bless you Dr. Gafney as you serve God’s people.

  96. Sylvester Warsaw, Jr. on February 3, 2012 at 9:19 am

    First and foremost I want to thank God for being who He is. I also want to thank Rev. Dr. Cecilia Bryant for posting this exceptional article by Dr. Gafney. God would not have His children ignorant and the Holy Bible clearly says that Jesus is Lord of lords and King of kings. Because I love the Lord with all that is within me I must do that which Jesus commands His children to do and that is to pray for our brothers and sisters especially those who intentionally mislead others. As children of God we are a holy nation and a royal priesthood not kings and queens that title belongs to Jesus alone. Praise God for the truth of His Word. Bless you Dr. Gafney as you serve God’s people.

  97. Rhonda on February 3, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I can’t say how appalled I am at this whole display. It looked like something out of an Indiana Jones movie. I was waiting for the floor to open and everyone tossed in a burning pit. The only good thing is, it has opened conversations about Who is the King of kings and Lord of all. Thank you for a professional explanation. Please continue to do God’s will.

  98. Rhonda on February 3, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I can’t say how appalled I am at this whole display. It looked like something out of an Indiana Jones movie. I was waiting for the floor to open and everyone tossed in a burning pit. The only good thing is, it has opened conversations about Who is the King of kings and Lord of all. Thank you for a professional explanation. Please continue to do God’s will.

  99. Rhonda on February 3, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I can’t say how appalled I am at this whole display. It looked like something out of an Indiana Jones movie. I was waiting for the floor to open and everyone tossed in a burning pit. The only good thing is, it has opened conversations about Who is the King of kings and Lord of all. Thank you for a professional explanation. Please continue to do God’s will.

  100. Rhonda on February 3, 2012 at 11:18 am

    I can’t say how appalled I am at this whole display. It looked like something out of an Indiana Jones movie. I was waiting for the floor to open and everyone tossed in a burning pit. The only good thing is, it has opened conversations about Who is the King of kings and Lord of all. Thank you for a professional explanation. Please continue to do God’s will.

  101. Ron Price on February 3, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Dr. Gafney,

    Thank you so very much for the detailed account of truth versus fiction. I have prayed for the New Birth congrgation to have the veil lifted from their eyes so that they might see the truth. Clearly they are in a theatre and are also part of the act that continues pn the world stage.

  102. Ron Price on February 3, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Dr. Gafney,

    Thank you so very much for the detailed account of truth versus fiction. I have prayed for the New Birth congrgation to have the veil lifted from their eyes so that they might see the truth. Clearly they are in a theatre and are also part of the act that continues pn the world stage.

  103. Ron Price on February 3, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Dr. Gafney,

    Thank you so very much for the detailed account of truth versus fiction. I have prayed for the New Birth congrgation to have the veil lifted from their eyes so that they might see the truth. Clearly they are in a theatre and are also part of the act that continues pn the world stage.

  104. Ron Price on February 3, 2012 at 11:57 am

    Dr. Gafney,

    Thank you so very much for the detailed account of truth versus fiction. I have prayed for the New Birth congrgation to have the veil lifted from their eyes so that they might see the truth. Clearly they are in a theatre and are also part of the act that continues pn the world stage.

  105. Henri Harvey on February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I was christianed as a child in the African Methodist Episcopal church and grew up in a Baptist church. However, I love history and religion and have great respect for all. When I first viewed the Eddie Long video I was so appalled I could not watch it in it’s entirety. I’ve been to bar/bat mitvahs and understand the reverence, beauty and the sacredness of the rituals, the Torah, the tallit prayer cloths. I could not believe how these men bastardized the the Jewish faith in insulted the entire Jewish community. Thank you Dr.Gafney for your insight,and clarifying by identifying all the misinformation and inappropriate representation in this video. I will share your article with others. Thank you again.

  106. Henri Harvey on February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I was christianed as a child in the African Methodist Episcopal church and grew up in a Baptist church. However, I love history and religion and have great respect for all. When I first viewed the Eddie Long video I was so appalled I could not watch it in it’s entirety. I’ve been to bar/bat mitvahs and understand the reverence, beauty and the sacredness of the rituals, the Torah, the tallit prayer cloths. I could not believe how these men bastardized the the Jewish faith in insulted the entire Jewish community. Thank you Dr.Gafney for your insight,and clarifying by identifying all the misinformation and inappropriate representation in this video. I will share your article with others. Thank you again.

  107. Henri Harvey on February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I was christianed as a child in the African Methodist Episcopal church and grew up in a Baptist church. However, I love history and religion and have great respect for all. When I first viewed the Eddie Long video I was so appalled I could not watch it in it’s entirety. I’ve been to bar/bat mitvahs and understand the reverence, beauty and the sacredness of the rituals, the Torah, the tallit prayer cloths. I could not believe how these men bastardized the the Jewish faith in insulted the entire Jewish community. Thank you Dr.Gafney for your insight,and clarifying by identifying all the misinformation and inappropriate representation in this video. I will share your article with others. Thank you again.

  108. Henri Harvey on February 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm

    I was christianed as a child in the African Methodist Episcopal church and grew up in a Baptist church. However, I love history and religion and have great respect for all. When I first viewed the Eddie Long video I was so appalled I could not watch it in it’s entirety. I’ve been to bar/bat mitvahs and understand the reverence, beauty and the sacredness of the rituals, the Torah, the tallit prayer cloths. I could not believe how these men bastardized the the Jewish faith in insulted the entire Jewish community. Thank you Dr.Gafney for your insight,and clarifying by identifying all the misinformation and inappropriate representation in this video. I will share your article with others. Thank you again.

  109. Craig Sully on February 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Thank-you!

  110. Craig Sully on February 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Thank-you!

  111. Craig Sully on February 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Thank-you!

  112. Craig Sully on February 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm

    Thank-you!

  113. Fran on February 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    THANK YOU. Because some of God children will see this video and think that all is well and even God children that were there and gave a Proud Amen and Praise God thought this was a Blessing. In this day and time we MUST know Our Bible and ask questions when we are not sure. Once again Thank You.

  114. Fran on February 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    THANK YOU. Because some of God children will see this video and think that all is well and even God children that were there and gave a Proud Amen and Praise God thought this was a Blessing. In this day and time we MUST know Our Bible and ask questions when we are not sure. Once again Thank You.

  115. Fran on February 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    THANK YOU. Because some of God children will see this video and think that all is well and even God children that were there and gave a Proud Amen and Praise God thought this was a Blessing. In this day and time we MUST know Our Bible and ask questions when we are not sure. Once again Thank You.

  116. Fran on February 3, 2012 at 1:40 pm

    THANK YOU. Because some of God children will see this video and think that all is well and even God children that were there and gave a Proud Amen and Praise God thought this was a Blessing. In this day and time we MUST know Our Bible and ask questions when we are not sure. Once again Thank You.

  117. Nancy Lebovitz on February 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Thank you very much for taking the trouble to listen to that infuriating video with enough care to refute so much of it.

    Also, common sense suggests that there was no way to smuggle a Torah scroll into a concentration camp.

    Birkenau, not Birkendahl.

    There is no K gene for Kohanim. There are genes on the Y chromosome which correlate very strongly with being a Kohen. It’s possible to have the genes without being a Kohen, and it’s possible to be a Kohen without having the genes.

    http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm

    Cells aren’t in the shapes of Hebrew letters.

  118. Nancy Lebovitz on February 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Thank you very much for taking the trouble to listen to that infuriating video with enough care to refute so much of it.

    Also, common sense suggests that there was no way to smuggle a Torah scroll into a concentration camp.

    Birkenau, not Birkendahl.

    There is no K gene for Kohanim. There are genes on the Y chromosome which correlate very strongly with being a Kohen. It’s possible to have the genes without being a Kohen, and it’s possible to be a Kohen without having the genes.

    http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm

    Cells aren’t in the shapes of Hebrew letters.

  119. Nancy Lebovitz on February 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Thank you very much for taking the trouble to listen to that infuriating video with enough care to refute so much of it.

    Also, common sense suggests that there was no way to smuggle a Torah scroll into a concentration camp.

    Birkenau, not Birkendahl.

    There is no K gene for Kohanim. There are genes on the Y chromosome which correlate very strongly with being a Kohen. It’s possible to have the genes without being a Kohen, and it’s possible to be a Kohen without having the genes.

    http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm

    Cells aren’t in the shapes of Hebrew letters.

  120. Nancy Lebovitz on February 3, 2012 at 3:23 pm

    Thank you very much for taking the trouble to listen to that infuriating video with enough care to refute so much of it.

    Also, common sense suggests that there was no way to smuggle a Torah scroll into a concentration camp.

    Birkenau, not Birkendahl.

    There is no K gene for Kohanim. There are genes on the Y chromosome which correlate very strongly with being a Kohen. It’s possible to have the genes without being a Kohen, and it’s possible to be a Kohen without having the genes.

    http://www.cohen-levi.org/jewish_genes_and_genealogy/the_dna_chain_of_tradition.htm

    Cells aren’t in the shapes of Hebrew letters.

  121. Min. Steven Pam on February 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Thank you, thank you,and thank you again. I am encouraged, and so are so many others. Bless you my sister, in Jesus name bless you.

  122. Min. Steven Pam on February 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Thank you, thank you,and thank you again. I am encouraged, and so are so many others. Bless you my sister, in Jesus name bless you.

  123. Min. Steven Pam on February 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Thank you, thank you,and thank you again. I am encouraged, and so are so many others. Bless you my sister, in Jesus name bless you.

  124. Min. Steven Pam on February 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm

    Thank you, thank you,and thank you again. I am encouraged, and so are so many others. Bless you my sister, in Jesus name bless you.

  125. Elizabeth on February 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Just in time to help those looking for a “Rabbi” or a Jewish believer to justify their status. This is not unlike the the “Bishops” using the Catholic Church to add the kind of prestiget to their ceremonies when just a few years ago they mocked or resisted the formal church. The need for affirmation in the African American church is clearly a symptom of something deep in the psychi of people who are insecure about their identity and desparately need affirmation. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am concerned about the next generation of believers. Thank the good Dr. for the rebuttal.

  126. Elizabeth on February 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Just in time to help those looking for a “Rabbi” or a Jewish believer to justify their status. This is not unlike the the “Bishops” using the Catholic Church to add the kind of prestiget to their ceremonies when just a few years ago they mocked or resisted the formal church. The need for affirmation in the African American church is clearly a symptom of something deep in the psychi of people who are insecure about their identity and desparately need affirmation. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am concerned about the next generation of believers. Thank the good Dr. for the rebuttal.

  127. Elizabeth on February 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Just in time to help those looking for a “Rabbi” or a Jewish believer to justify their status. This is not unlike the the “Bishops” using the Catholic Church to add the kind of prestiget to their ceremonies when just a few years ago they mocked or resisted the formal church. The need for affirmation in the African American church is clearly a symptom of something deep in the psychi of people who are insecure about their identity and desparately need affirmation. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am concerned about the next generation of believers. Thank the good Dr. for the rebuttal.

  128. Elizabeth on February 3, 2012 at 5:34 pm

    Just in time to help those looking for a “Rabbi” or a Jewish believer to justify their status. This is not unlike the the “Bishops” using the Catholic Church to add the kind of prestiget to their ceremonies when just a few years ago they mocked or resisted the formal church. The need for affirmation in the African American church is clearly a symptom of something deep in the psychi of people who are insecure about their identity and desparately need affirmation. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am concerned about the next generation of believers. Thank the good Dr. for the rebuttal.

  129. Shelton on February 4, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Thanks for exposing false religious rites, for lack of knowledge people persh. And just because it comes from the pulpit labeled I’m a Jew means exactly what?? Itchy ears and unlearned minds, beware!

  130. Shelton on February 4, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Thanks for exposing false religious rites, for lack of knowledge people persh. And just because it comes from the pulpit labeled I’m a Jew means exactly what?? Itchy ears and unlearned minds, beware!

  131. Shelton on February 4, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Thanks for exposing false religious rites, for lack of knowledge people persh. And just because it comes from the pulpit labeled I’m a Jew means exactly what?? Itchy ears and unlearned minds, beware!

  132. Shelton on February 4, 2012 at 10:49 am

    Thanks for exposing false religious rites, for lack of knowledge people persh. And just because it comes from the pulpit labeled I’m a Jew means exactly what?? Itchy ears and unlearned minds, beware!

  133. Clay on February 4, 2012 at 11:23 am

    They were singing, Prepare yee the way of the Lord … is it Eddie Long being the ‘Lord’? Hmmmmmm…

  134. Clay on February 4, 2012 at 11:23 am

    They were singing, Prepare yee the way of the Lord … is it Eddie Long being the ‘Lord’? Hmmmmmm…

  135. Clay on February 4, 2012 at 11:23 am

    They were singing, Prepare yee the way of the Lord … is it Eddie Long being the ‘Lord’? Hmmmmmm…

  136. Clay on February 4, 2012 at 11:23 am

    They were singing, Prepare yee the way of the Lord … is it Eddie Long being the ‘Lord’? Hmmmmmm…

  137. Arlene on February 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Wil, Kol HaKavod Lach! Your points are well made and well researched. Thank you for taking the time to respond to this. Am honoured to call you friend and colleague!

  138. Arlene on February 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Wil, Kol HaKavod Lach! Your points are well made and well researched. Thank you for taking the time to respond to this. Am honoured to call you friend and colleague!

  139. Arlene on February 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Wil, Kol HaKavod Lach! Your points are well made and well researched. Thank you for taking the time to respond to this. Am honoured to call you friend and colleague!

  140. Arlene on February 4, 2012 at 1:03 pm

    Wil, Kol HaKavod Lach! Your points are well made and well researched. Thank you for taking the time to respond to this. Am honoured to call you friend and colleague!

  141. Kathy on February 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    I find it hard to believe the "a man of God" would allow himself to be placed on display without knowing the whole truth about what was and is being done on his behalf. Where is the discernment? How can you allow someone to come into your pulpit with lack of knowledge of what they are saying? I'm praying for the mind of the people, that they would have the "Mind of Jesus Christ" and know the word for themselves and research the scriptures for the truth.

  142. Kathy on February 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    I find it hard to believe the "a man of God" would allow himself to be placed on display without knowing the whole truth about what was and is being done on his behalf. Where is the discernment? How can you allow someone to come into your pulpit with lack of knowledge of what they are saying? I'm praying for the mind of the people, that they would have the "Mind of Jesus Christ" and know the word for themselves and research the scriptures for the truth.

  143. Kathy on February 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    I find it hard to believe the "a man of God" would allow himself to be placed on display without knowing the whole truth about what was and is being done on his behalf. Where is the discernment? How can you allow someone to come into your pulpit with lack of knowledge of what they are saying? I'm praying for the mind of the people, that they would have the "Mind of Jesus Christ" and know the word for themselves and research the scriptures for the truth.

  144. Kathy on February 4, 2012 at 1:18 pm

    I find it hard to believe the "a man of God" would allow himself to be placed on display without knowing the whole truth about what was and is being done on his behalf. Where is the discernment? How can you allow someone to come into your pulpit with lack of knowledge of what they are saying? I'm praying for the mind of the people, that they would have the "Mind of Jesus Christ" and know the word for themselves and research the scriptures for the truth.

  145. Marion Phillips on February 5, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Dr. Gafney I appreciate your background and effort but you should not have wasted your time on sin and shame. But then again that is what Christians need to do teach RIGHT! Yet everyone knows when you are lifted up by the people you will also be let know by people!

  146. Marion Phillips on February 5, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Dr. Gafney I appreciate your background and effort but you should not have wasted your time on sin and shame. But then again that is what Christians need to do teach RIGHT! Yet everyone knows when you are lifted up by the people you will also be let know by people!

  147. Marion Phillips on February 5, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Dr. Gafney I appreciate your background and effort but you should not have wasted your time on sin and shame. But then again that is what Christians need to do teach RIGHT! Yet everyone knows when you are lifted up by the people you will also be let know by people!

  148. Marion Phillips on February 5, 2012 at 12:41 am

    Dr. Gafney I appreciate your background and effort but you should not have wasted your time on sin and shame. But then again that is what Christians need to do teach RIGHT! Yet everyone knows when you are lifted up by the people you will also be let know by people!

  149. Shlomi on February 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF8uGOWgHE&fe… to his confusing rebuttal of this article. It took 1 hour and 9 minutes to spout gobbledygook which doesn't begin to adequately address his actions and statements nor even to address the points in the above article. It is back-pedaling, and an incredible amount of scripture twisting. He has disabled commenting and displays a large copyright notice throughout reading; Rebroadcast and Reproduction are not allowed. Guess he never heard of Fair Use. I imagine this is an attempt to censor offended parties and anyone with an actual brain. Since every single ridiculous statement he made is another cord of wood for the fire. 1 hour and 9 minutes long. I am even more appalled now than before.

  150. Shlomi on February 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF8uGOWgHE&fe… to his confusing rebuttal of this article. It took 1 hour and 9 minutes to spout gobbledygook which doesn't begin to adequately address his actions and statements nor even to address the points in the above article. It is back-pedaling, and an incredible amount of scripture twisting. He has disabled commenting and displays a large copyright notice throughout reading; Rebroadcast and Reproduction are not allowed. Guess he never heard of Fair Use. I imagine this is an attempt to censor offended parties and anyone with an actual brain. Since every single ridiculous statement he made is another cord of wood for the fire. 1 hour and 9 minutes long. I am even more appalled now than before.

  151. Shlomi on February 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF8uGOWgHE&fe… to his confusing rebuttal of this article. It took 1 hour and 9 minutes to spout gobbledygook which doesn't begin to adequately address his actions and statements nor even to address the points in the above article. It is back-pedaling, and an incredible amount of scripture twisting. He has disabled commenting and displays a large copyright notice throughout reading; Rebroadcast and Reproduction are not allowed. Guess he never heard of Fair Use. I imagine this is an attempt to censor offended parties and anyone with an actual brain. Since every single ridiculous statement he made is another cord of wood for the fire. 1 hour and 9 minutes long. I am even more appalled now than before.

  152. Shlomi on February 5, 2012 at 1:51 pm

    Here is a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcF8uGOWgHE&fe… to his confusing rebuttal of this article. It took 1 hour and 9 minutes to spout gobbledygook which doesn't begin to adequately address his actions and statements nor even to address the points in the above article. It is back-pedaling, and an incredible amount of scripture twisting. He has disabled commenting and displays a large copyright notice throughout reading; Rebroadcast and Reproduction are not allowed. Guess he never heard of Fair Use. I imagine this is an attempt to censor offended parties and anyone with an actual brain. Since every single ridiculous statement he made is another cord of wood for the fire. 1 hour and 9 minutes long. I am even more appalled now than before.

  153. Debra on February 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    He does not represent Messianic Jews. We study our bibles carefully and apply it correctly. :)Shalom

  154. Debra on February 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    He does not represent Messianic Jews. We study our bibles carefully and apply it correctly. :)Shalom

  155. Debra on February 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    He does not represent Messianic Jews. We study our bibles carefully and apply it correctly. :)Shalom

  156. Debra on February 5, 2012 at 5:43 pm

    He does not represent Messianic Jews. We study our bibles carefully and apply it correctly. :)Shalom

  157. Naomi on February 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Thank you for clearing things up. Appropriation leads to idolatry in this circumstance. And it is painful.

  158. Naomi on February 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Thank you for clearing things up. Appropriation leads to idolatry in this circumstance. And it is painful.

  159. Naomi on February 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Thank you for clearing things up. Appropriation leads to idolatry in this circumstance. And it is painful.

  160. Naomi on February 5, 2012 at 10:49 pm

    Thank you for clearing things up. Appropriation leads to idolatry in this circumstance. And it is painful.

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